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Use of `XV` on AFR
An Fear Rua
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17-Sep-2008 19:44
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Using `XV` to describe hurling and gaelic football teams has begun to creep in on AFR. It has been in use on RTÉ Sports web site for some time, possibly by web journalists who are constantly switching from one sport to another.
It`s just as easy to refer to a GAA `team` `side` `lineout` or `panel`. These are all terms that are accepted and have been hallowed by usage in the GAA.
Please leave the use of `XV` to the sheepcoated,brandy-toting rugby alickadoos and the English `public` schoolboys, where the usage (along with XI ) for cricket teams originated
nlgbbbblth
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17-Sep-2008 19:55
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I remember my uncle telling me
"Only a b*llocks uses Roman numerals"
Italians presumably excepted.
Semper Premier
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17-Sep-2008 19:57
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Originally posted by An Fear Rua:
Use of `XV` on AFR
would it be a banning offence?
OneLeggedDancer
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17-Sep-2008 20:17
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Originally posted by nlgbbbblth:
I remember my uncle telling me
"Only a b*llocks uses Roman numerals"
Italians presumably excepted.
Should that be boll ix?
SHANNONSIDER**
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17-Sep-2008 20:25
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Outstanding candidate for the most absurd thread ever started on this forum.
I was blithely unaware of any class distinction in the usage of Roman numerals, indeed I`d be very dubious if one exists except in the minds of exceptionally strange individuals. To me it`s an abbreviation, nothing more, used commonly across the world. I`ll continue to use them where I see fit. I think you should free yourself from the slavery of the post colonial outlook AFR.
Seamusin
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17-Sep-2008 20:33
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Originally posted by An Fear Rua:
Using `XV` to describe hurling and gaelic football teams has begun to creep in on AFR. It has been in use on RTÉ Sports web site for some time, possibly by web journalists who are constantly switching from one sport to another.
It`s just as easy to refer to a GAA `team` `side` `lineout` or `panel`. These are all terms that are accepted and have been hallowed by usage in the GAA.
Please leave the use of `XV` to the sheepcoated,brandy-toting rugby alickadoos and the English `public` schoolboys, where the usage (along with XI ) for cricket teams originated
it`s not a phenomenon that I had noticed.
Your last paragraph is a bit bizarre though even for someone, like myself, who can take or leave rugby.
Anyway, we can also thank English public schoolboys for the codification of sports, which led indirectly to football and hurling as we know them.
If the wrath of the Almighty is to be invoked, it is on those who refer to the full forward line in football and hurling as the "inside forward" line.
I blame Ger Canning.
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17-Sep-2008 20:38
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The GAA are at it now, the English lackeys...
http://www.gaa.ie/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=24374
Semper Premier
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17-Sep-2008 20:51
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Originally posted by SHANNONSIDER**:
Outstanding candidate for the most absurd thread ever started on this forum.
I was blithely unaware of any class distinction in the usage of Roman numerals, indeed I`d be very dubious if one exists except in the minds of exceptionally strange individuals. To me it`s an abbreviation, nothing more, used commonly across the world. I`ll continue to use them where I see fit. I think you should free yourself from the slavery of the post colonial outlook AFR.
I have an uncle who`ll go on a rant when he sees Christmas written as Xmas. Something about not giving proper respect to a Christian holiday. People are odd.
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Rugby used to use letters (ala Leicester ) rather than numerals, I could never figure out the whole XI thing when I was younger reading Shoot! and Match, I knew Roman numerals, never put them in place with soccer, remember reading about the Rest of the World Ex Eye
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Originally posted by Semper Premier:
I have an uncle who`ll go on a rant when he sees Christmas written as Xmas. Something about not giving proper respect to a Christian holiday. People are odd.
I`d say you`re in big trouble with your Latin name, Semper.
Editors note: All references to the 2009 Superbowl will henceforth be spelled out phonetically as `Superbowl Ex Ell Aye Aye Aye`.
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Originally posted by SHANNONSIDER**:
I`d say you`re in big trouble with your Latin name, Semper.
Editors note: All references to the 2009 Superbowl will henceforth be spelled out phonetically as `Superbowl Ex Ell Aye Aye Aye`.
I was going to ask about the whole Latin and Christ bit but I wasn`t 100% sure.
If we were to spell out the XV phonetically and try to put a local twang on it are we allowed?
Axe Vah Boy
An Fear Rua
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Originally posted by OneLeggedDancer:
Should that be boll ix?
An Fear Rua
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Originally posted by Semper Premier:
would it be a banning offence?
IV no plans for that
An Fear Rua
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Originally posted by SHANNONSIDER**:
Outstanding candidate for the most absurd thread ever started on this forum.
I was blithely unaware of any class distinction in the usage of Roman numerals, indeed I`d be very dubious if one exists except in the minds of exceptionally strange individuals. To me it`s an abbreviation, nothing more, used commonly across the world. I`ll continue to use them where I see fit. I think you should free yourself from the slavery of the post colonial outlook AFR.
Mostly used by the lads of the IV Form at Saint Ethelreds....
An Fear Rua
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Originally posted by Seamusin:
Anyway, we can also thank English public schoolboys for the codification of sports, which led indirectly to football and hurling as we know them.
Did the lads of Saint Ethelreds play hurling with Setanta or against the Yella Bellies in front of King Charles
GAA All Stars
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17-Sep-2008 22:05
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KK 111-XXX Wford 1-X111.....just does`nt look the same.
An Fear Rua
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Originally posted by SHANNONSIDER**:
The GAA are at it now, the English lackeys...
http://www.gaa.ie/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=24374
But, they`re the same crowd who wanted to get rid of the names of Hogan and Cusack from Croke Park and replace them with Level A and Level B. They`d have tried to rename it Goldman Sachs Park - or Páirc Gholdman - only we put a stop their gallop.
So, I wouldn`t regard the brass in Croke Park as arbiters of traditional GAA terminology.
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Anyone remember when the `public` school boys at Auntie Beeb used to put things like `Copyright, BBC, MDXCCLLIV` at the end of their TV programmes?
Lovely Aghagallon
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17-Sep-2008 22:10
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Originally posted by An Fear Rua:
Anyone remember when the `public` school boys at Auntie Beeb used to put things like `Copyright, BBC, MDXCCLLIV` at the end of their TV programmes?
they still do. its MMVIII now. get with it AFR!
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17-Sep-2008 22:16
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When, in the course of a conversation, any forumite is referring to the titanium group in the periodic table of elements, henceforth please refer to them as Group 4 rather than (IVA,IVB ) .
Similarly any discussion on the fifth installment of the Rocky series, it should be referred to as Rocky Five, lest we mistake you for an extra from Pride and Prejudice.
That is all.
Seamusin
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17-Sep-2008 22:20
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Originally posted by An Fear Rua:
Anyone remember when the `public` school boys at Auntie Beeb used to put things like `Copyright, BBC, MDXCCLLIV` at the end of their TV programmes?
Hollywood is hardly full of English public schoolboys, and most films use Roman numerals for the date.
If I see any grandfather clocks defaced or public clocks with the roman numerals scratched out and replaced by arabic numerals, I know where to direct the Guards ...
any chance AFR Coder could change the post count to roman numerals? It would add a touch of class ...
hbvolvic
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17-Sep-2008 22:29
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Originally posted by An Fear Rua:
Using `XV` to describe hurling and gaelic football teams has begun to creep in on AFR. It has been in use on RTÉ Sports web site for some time, possibly by web journalists who are constantly switching from one sport to another.
It`s just as easy to refer to a GAA `team` `side` `lineout` or `panel`. These are all terms that are accepted and have been hallowed by usage in the GAA.
Please leave the use of `XV` to the sheepcoated,brandy-toting rugby alickadoos and the English `public` schoolboys, where the usage (along with XI ) for cricket teams originated
some load of schite!
by jaysus afr you haven`t much to be botherin you
An Fear Rua
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17-Sep-2008 22:32
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Hollywood films ... public clocks ... the table of elements... We`re along way off my basic point. Which is that GAA teams should be referred to as `teams`, `fifteens` etc. XV should be left to Rugby and Aussie Rules. I don`t know about American football.
Just a small point.
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Originally posted by An Fear Rua:
GAA teams should be referred to as `teams`, `fifteens`
But according to who AFR? Where is this GAA version of the Harvard Referencing System stored so we can all study it, lest similar etiquette mistakes be made.
It`s a very peculiar sort of Kulturkampf you`re pursuing.
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17-Sep-2008 22:53
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Originally posted by SHANNONSIDER**:
But according to who AFR? Where is this GAA version of the Harvard Referencing System stored so we can all study it, lest similar etiquette mistakes be made.
It`s a very peculiar sort of Kulturkampf you`re pursuing.
its bullschit and i think the man jumped the gun thinking the diehards would row in, they prob will tomorrow.
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